-Beginning of meeting-
[20:06] <Lilman424|FF8>  	The topic is the website and pathfinding. Sound good?
[20:06] <Rein[GP]>  	pathfinding? not so fast...
[20:07] <Rein[GP]>  	but we can debate on it however
[20:07] <Lilman424|FF8>  	ok
[20:08] <Lilman424>  	:: Transport Empire :: Meeting Topic: Website :: Official Forum is at http://www.tt-forums.net/viewforum.php?f=20 :: Sourceforge site not up yet
[20:08] <Lilman424>  	what should we talk about?
[20:09] <Rein[GP]>  	you mentioned ab. the website...
[20:09] <Rein[GP]>  	so, whats the deal with it?
[20:09] <Lilman424>  	chochmah was talking about it
[20:10] <Hellfire[OC]>  	afaik there is no website
[20:10] <Lilman424>  	that's the point
[20:10] <Rein[GP]>  	hmm, I could take up the design in free time (which i dont have usually :) if no one cares
[20:10] <Lilman424>  	I think ken was gonna make one, but he's not here
[20:11] <Rein[GP]>  	I remeber that old good *orange* version, whose was that?
[20:11] <Lilman424>  	sveint I think
[20:11] <Lilman424>  	lemme look
[20:12] <Lilman424>  	this? http://www.emulation64.com/Gorxon/te/index.htm
[20:13] <Rein[GP]>  	yess
[20:17] <Rein[GP]>  	what do you think? what format wud be best for the docs?
[20:18] <Lilman424>  	hmm?
[20:18] <Rein[GP]>  	html or just txt with extern gifs?
[20:18] <Lilman424>  	html
[20:18] <Hellfire[OC]>  	texinfo --> can compile to html, text, chf and pdf
[20:19] <Rein[GP]>  	it will take too much time i think
[20:21] <Tokartta>  	On the whole help file thing
[20:21] <Tokartta>  	Why not please everybody by offering as many formats as possible?
[20:22] <Lilman424>  	hmm.........good point
[20:22] <Tokartta>  	Also
[20:22] <Tokartta>  	Don't rule out pdf
[20:22] <Tokartta>  	you may not like acrobat
[20:22] <Tokartta>  	I do.
[20:22] <Hellfire[OC]>  	Tokartta --> there are formats that can compile into many formats
[20:22] <Tokartta>  	Many other people do as well, probably.
[20:22] <Tokartta>  	I mean the main ones that your average joe will know about..
[20:22] <Tokartta>  	ttdpatch offers the manual in quite a few
[20:22] <Hellfire[OC]>  	On the net, you often see manuals in HTML, PDF, TXT and CHF
[20:22] <Tokartta>  	Offer those four then.
[20:22] <Hellfire[OC]>  	yes, that's what i meant
[20:22] <Rein[GP]>  	Tokartta - maybe future format will include pdf, as for now it isnt necessary
[20:23] <Hellfire[OC]>  	for now, plain text will do, yes.
[20:23] <Rein[GP]>  	html has this advantage to keep links, pdf doesnt afaik
[20:23] <Tokartta>  	At the current state of development, yeah, but when we're getting near the end of it then we'll have to offer as many formats as we can.
[20:23] <Rein[GP]>  	hmm, but will that bring anything in?
[20:23] <Hellfire[OC]>  	"Thanks to Texinfo (a free documentation system) I can now present the manual in many different formats. Pick the one that you like best"
[20:24] <Hellfire[OC]>  	http://texinfo.org/
[20:24] <Rein[GP]>  	ok
[20:25] <Tokartta>  	come to think of it
[20:25] <Tokartta>  	perhaps there could be a help system in the game itself.
[20:26] <Tokartta>  	But thats a discussion for when the engine is ready for it. (I'm not informed about the state of it, but I'm presuming its pretty bare right now).
[20:28] <Tokartta>  	On a completely unrelated note, I know quite a few musos very much capable of doing the earlier game music.
[20:28] <Lilman424>  	Tok:cool
[20:28] <Tokartta>  	I know a team of people working on Harold Stibbins, a mod for Unreal 2.
[20:29] <Tokartta>  	So I can get voice actors, art people etc, if they agree.
[20:29] <Lilman424>  	voice actors? for what?
[20:30] <Tokartta>  	Dunno. If we need them though, we have them.
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